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Karen

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 12:16pm

Stephen, thanks for the update. This is really helpful for those of us on the outside looking in.

Re: the lack of comments — maybe people would rather talk to each other than to an “organization” or a “news release.” That is, if you comment on an SMNR, who exactly are you talking to?

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Stuart Bruce

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 1:17pm

The not wanting to comment is true on blogs as well as SMNR. On blogs people often email me comments, rather than wanting to coment on the blog.

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Walker Hamilton

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 1:51pm

Does webitpr have an API so that new “press releases” can be created by a client’s content management system for their own site & then pushed to webitpr site automatically?

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Paull Young

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 2:08pm

Great post mate.

The interesting thing I found is how different bloggers would react differently to different content - it’s all about the story, and offering content in interesting ways.

I talked with many bloggers about this project, and having an SMNR link to send them was always helpful. Some bloggers would link to just the YouTube vid I sent them, some the release, some would use our personal conversation and include their own thoughts.

However, by putting forward the information in a variety of styles, I gave them the option to have all their questions answered.

At the moment, a SMNR has many benefits as a tool for blogger relations, above and beyond a traditional release.

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Constantin Basturea

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 2:20pm

Interesting post, Stephen! Karen’s comment brings up the problem of “socializing” the SMNR - there’s not much incentive to comment on a release if there’s no indication that someone will actually respond to your comments.

So here’s an idea: including a new field in the SMNR that will make clear who’s the person that will respond to the questions/comments on the release.

What do you think? :)

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Kami Huyse

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 3:53pm

This is a great discussion and shows how things are changing in how information is disseminated. It seems to me that the true conversations will never occur at the SNMR, unless like Constantin says, there is some reason for it. In my work in PR, it seems that most departments are unwilling to do “customer service” work, they reserve themselves for media relations. Maybe there is a new role in companies that needs to be developed for the customer evangelist, or as I like to call it the Ombudsman, to engage in these conversations.

Thanks Stephen for sharing your experiences.

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Stephen

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 8:25pm

Thanks for everyone’s comments!

Walker: Checked with our guys and it’s definitely doable. And it’s something we would look to do if there was demand for it.

Paull: Couldn’t agree more mate. That’s the beauty of the blogosphere. So many different opinions and preferences that it’s not a one size fits all. Some bloggers just want video and others just want facts whereas others want everything.

Karen, Stuart, Constantin & Kami: It’s a funny one isn’t it. What’s the saying? 10% comment while 90% lurk… Or words to that effect.

But, like Karen said, if people don’t know who they’re talking to then they’re less inclined to comment. We had a chat about Constantin’s idea today and we like it and it’s something we’re going to implement.

I flagged up a concern questioning how long can the designated respondent be available for comment?

What I mean by this is, say Company X puts out a SMNR with a designated respondent. How long can this person be available for comment after the release has gone out?

Would it be for as long as the release is available online? Or would you put a time cap on it - much like some bloggers do by turning of comments on older posts?

Thanks again!

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Constantin Basturea

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 8:41pm

Stephen, glad you liked the idea! It makes sense to have someone available for comments response for a limited time (and that should be made clear in the release). A week it’s more than enough, IMO (by blogosphere standards, I’d say that 99% of the comments are posted in the first week after the entry goes live — unless, of course, the release is about a controversial issue, or an evolving controversial issue… but that probably is the exception, not the norm). After that time the person designated as a contact can be contacted by e-mail.

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Walker Hamilton

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 8:44pm

Stephen, why isn’t there demand for it? If I could, I would create a component for cakePHP (or any of the number of frameworks & content management systems I’m using) so that clients wouldn’t have to double-post their press releases.

It would be a boon to P.R. departments and would make me a hero with my clients. They have me build new systems for them to reduce repetitive tasks. This is one I’m big on: One-time data entry.

I am in the process of building a Real-estate website. Getting access to real-estate listing site & service APIs was a must. The client enter the new listings in one place….they show up everywhere.

I really think that doing this for the P.R. world would be a “killer app”.

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Walker Hamilton

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 8:47pm

Oh, also, in response to the “designated respondent availability” I would make that user-configurable. Simply a “date” that the “designated respondent” information stop showing up on that release. If you default it to something (never or a fixed # of days) you’re help the majority of people and the rest can go in and set the date they stop being available for responses.

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Stephen

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 9:20pm

We’re on a roll!

Constantin: Something like:

CEO of Company X is available to comment on this SMNR for up to one week after the issue date. Time 09.00 - 17.00 PST

Following this time period all contact can be made via the contact details at the top of this release.

(or something like that)

I wonder if there’s a conflict due to having a designated spokesperson who’ll comment on the release but then having contact (agency contact, spokesperson etc) details at the top of the release itself?

Also, I wonder if we can get around commenting on the weekend? Some people (who obviously don’t work in online PR) like to take the weekends off. :-)

Walker: Thanks again. We’re not sure if there is a demand for it or not as we’ve never looked into it (yet). And if there is, we’d do it (I’m presuming as I don’t make the final decisions).

I’ll get the guys back at HQ’s opinions on this as I’m not up to speed on CMS… at all! But your ‘one time data entry’ idea sounds good… and time saving.

The only issue I see is that we deal with large and small agencies. Meaning the smaller ones won’t have their own CMS.

Loads of food for thought!

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Alex

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 9:54pm

Really interesting to hear how it is all developing.

On the commenting point, have you come across any sense of potential commenters not wishing to become part of the news themselves, and so maintaining an arms length?

Also, have you had any clients issuing SMNR in parallel with offline releases on the same topic, and have these supported each other if so? I would have thought that scenario would be an area where having rich media SMNR would really come into its own-offerring something discernibly enhanced for an online recipient.

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Ian Green

Friday, August 3, 2007 at 4:26pm

Well I don’t mind stepping up to the crease and admitting that GREEN was one of Stephen’s guinea pigs.
We issued a SMNR on behalf of a techie client we are doing some project work for. I’ve been au fait with the SMNR release via the Social Media Club and some other developers in the UK for a while but many members of staff were a bit perplexed… until they saw the results.
We can generate the deadwood media no problem - but staff at GREEN were pleasantly surprised that the SMNR generated more than 34 online responses within 24 hours.
I agree with Stephen that this service will evolve and we might have to drag clients along with us - but 10/10 for Stephen and his team.

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Friday, August 3, 2007 at 4:42pm

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Stephen

Friday, August 3, 2007 at 8:13pm

Thanks Ian, mate. :)

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